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For those of you that have replaced your Barient with other brands, this article
will not prove useful. But if you, like me, still have Barient winches, read
on.
Barient winches apparently were the "standard" winch on our beloved yachts, with the Model 25 as primaries, and the Model 21 as secondaries. At some point Lewmar bought Barient and the Barient (or Barlow/Barient in some cases) went away, as did a lot of the parts we need to keep them up and running.
The tricky thing is that the earlier models (before 1983) were a significantly different design than those manufactured in 1983 and after. If you don't know the difference, you could possibly mis-match parts ... not a pretty picture.
"But wait," you say, "what parts? Ain't nobody got parts for Barients!".
And to you I say: Al contrario amici miei (or "Au contraire mes amis" for those of you so inclined)!
We have located two sources of Barient Parts, one in Florida, and the other in
the Land of Oz. The source in Australia has a nice web site,and the source in
Florida has a guy that knows these puppies pretty well. The info for both are
below.
But first, let us discuss how to identify the differences between the 1980 and the 1983 models:
1980 - The top plate is held in place with a circlip. Remove the circlip (carefully, very carefully), remove the top plate, and you will see the pawls seated in the top of the drum.
1983 - The top plate (top cap) is held in place with a set screw (3/16" Allen), and the pawls are in the top cap, not in the drum. And to add to the fun, there is reference to a "dismantling" handle. I have the older model and haven't a clue as to what that might be, but I would think you can work your way around it.
We have some manuals (see below) on the Model 21 (and others as well) but not on the older Model 25. The major difference between the 21 and the 25 (other than size) is that the Model 25 has two bearings whilst the Model 21 has but one. We do have a graphic of the Model 25 (.jpg). The disassembly would be about the same as the Model 21.
Here is the fix "my" machinist put into place:
The sockets which hold the pawl were egg-shaped to the point that the pawls fell
out. He drilled out the sockets so they are round, then put in stainless steel
sleeves with a set screw so they do not rotate. The pawls fit perfectly, and
the winch functions just as before, if not better.
I will try to get some photos of the final result.
Here are the two sources for parts:
Florida (this key infomation courtesy of Patrick Edwards) -
Florida Rigging & Hydraulics
Pete is "The Expert". He is located in Stuart, FL, not Riviera Beach (see below).
If you call the 800 number, they will tell you to call Pete direct.
pete@www.rigginghydraulics.com
772 221 8692
Florida Rigging & Hydraulics
3905 Investment Lane
Riviera Beach, FL 33404
www.rigginghydraulics.com
800 718-1649
If you call the 800 number, they will tell you to call Pete direct.
Australia -
http://www.huttonwinches.com/products/spares
"With the demise of the companies that manufactured BARIENT & BARLOW winches, almost every customer who ever purchased those winches has experienced some frustrations in trying to keep the winches serviceable. Unfortunately, no provisions were made to ensure supply of even the most basic of spare parts for BARIENT & BARLOW equipment."
Manuals (zipped PDFs)
barient_21_2spd_circa_1980.zip
barient_21_post_3-83.zip
barient_22_post_3-83.zip
barient_22_pre_3-83.zip
barient23_2spd_selftail_post_051579.zip
barient_23_post_5-83.zip
barient_25_2spd_circa_1980.jpg
barient_23_pre_5-83.zip
barient30-32_2spd_selftail_circa_1980.zip
barlow-barient_post3-83_winch.zip
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